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i wonder why any kind of emergency planning at the individual level is so heavily ridiculed

unrelated example: i almost always have a fire extinguisher and a trauma kit in the trunk of my car, people say things all the time. i've had to use them numerous times, and no one had any snarky comments at that time...

it seems like media makes a good business making fun, maybe that is a contributor, but it seemed to exist long before those shows appeared

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in many European countries its a legal requirement to have basic emergency equipment in your car (ranging from first aid kits to warning triangles, yellow vests (hence why the French protesters have them), and an obligation to assist others at road incidents.

OTOH there is a trend to even sacrifice the space for a spare wheel in preference for an extra bass loudspeaker (I like to listen to music when driving, but can see why that is a bad idea)..

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@vfrmedia interesting, as far as i know only commercial vehicles have a federally mandated equipment requirement (fire extinguisher, first aid, hazard triangle and vests i think on the required list)

ah yes the well known bass-safety tradeoff...

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@twitter in the UK its encouraged but not mandatory - if you bought a German car you *used* to get at least a triangle and often sometimes the first aid kit; but this is less common nowadays (cost cutting)

Brits generally aren't taught to cope with emergencies as much as folk on the Continent (including "normal" seasonal occurrences such as weather, power cuts)

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@vfrmedia hmm, it's strange

the US is all about independence and not needing anything from anyone

but then many choose not to be prepared in the slightest, i wonder if it is some misguided "look how patriotic/how much trust we have in our government/country/whatever, we're going all in and not even preparing in the slightest for _anything_ that's how confident we are in things"

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@twitter basically most people are stupid and defer to popularity and herd instinct instead of thinking

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@twitter an inability to see themselves in a situation where they might need those options?
I work with some theoretically bright people, but sometimes they really don't have the ability to plan ahead for problems. even people who you'd think would know better by now.
people also go to pieces without practice/training, which I think might also turn into learned helplessness.
"I froze when this thing happened, so I'll always freeze. no point in planning ahead then."

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@twitter one time my spouse & I gave 1st aid to a guy who sliced open his hand pretty badly. everyone else froze up completely. after we sent the injured guy off to the nearest ER, we hung out for a bit. the business owner came out of shock a short while later & started talking about how completely worthless and how bad he felt.
we said 'no, dude. get first aid training. practice until you don't freeze up.'
it had never occurred to him, or to anyone else present.

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@ischade yeah, you bring up a great point. i used to teach emergency response, first aid, cpr, etc and that's absolutely true about training and practice. just being mentally prepared goes a long way, having that plan for what-if in the back of your mind you can just pull up immediately without having to think through every step on the fly

it's a weird thing that after events like you describe people don't seek out training, or at least look up what to do...

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@twitter yeah, I was very surprised. maybe planning ahead also takes practice? there's always [service]! they'll take care of it!
my parents made me practice for possible problems, which I hated. -until 'but what if there isn't [service]?' occurred to me. I started paying more attention after that.
I don't know, tho.

as far as ridicule, maybe an artifact of high school? some kids make fun of everything they don't understand, given a chance. some adults keep doing it. :(

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@ischade @twitter @velartrill if you know what to do, you can do a lot of it even when totally freaking tf out. if you don’t know what to do, when you freak out you certainly aren’t gonna come up with anything good.

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@moonman @twitter my wife and i took some face masks from our last japan trip back home, she wanted to wear them in winter because she gets sick easily. in the end she didn't do it because she was too scared that people would make fun of her.

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@moonman @lain yeah, these masks have been out of the supply chain for how long? like your box of 25 from 3 years ago isn't really contributing to the current shortage at all...

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@lain @moonman @twitter I cover my diy mask with a scarf lol

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@lain @moonman ugh, people are assholes

dress like a doctor all the time, no one will say shit if you have a scalpel in your lab coat pocket

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@moonman stop hoarding lobsters!

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@twitter @velartrill first aid kit in the truck. another one every time i go hiking, even in popular hiking spots. all sorts of other emergency supplies in the truck in case stuck in winter.

spouse just had 10 day wilderness first aid training (which, okay, that’s pretty extra), but our 12yo and now our 9yo also have red cross first aid training. spouse also recently got a ham license and handheld radio.

@velartrill @rabcyr @twitter all i’ve got is basic first aid training and a half a pack of adhesive bandages :(

@rabcyr @lachs0r @twitter definitely more than most americans, myself included

@rabcyr @velartrill @twitter first aid training is mandatory if you want to get a driver’s license in germany. also you can go to jail for up to a year for not helping someone in danger (though just calling an ambulance is enough).

need to have a first-aid kit in your vehicle, too (which is why i didn’t worry about it too much on longer trips with friends).

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@twitter @velartrill the next winter after moving to buffalo from texas, a huge snowstorm buried the southern half of the metro under 7 feet of snow, but we were fine. that afternoon i stocked up on like a week of emergency foods that would last months. cashier looked at me like i was nuts. wtf?!

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@twitter @velartrill as of today i now have a big travel trailer (great considering the state of things now, but we were already planning this, no one should decide to impulse buy one!) so we can comfortably escape some emergencies.

but because of the current pandemic, and how many govs were not prepared at all for this, i will work on always having a year supply of essentials for my family.

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@twitter @velartrill oh, and several years ago i bought camping supplies. and can carry on my back supplies where i can sleep just fine at 20f without a fire next to me. using emergency supplies, my whole family could stay safely warm (but not comfortably).

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@rabcyr @twitter @velartrill imho it's a combo of 'normalcy bias' and how the finance operates: prepping is the loud signal of a loss of faith in the state and society in general, and no one invested in the status quo wants to hear it. same reason people get ridiculed for avoiding investments: "lol stonks always go up dumbass! why would they ever *not* go up?" (it is frowned upon to try and answer this question)

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@videomurder @twitter @velartrill yeah i’m spending my money on being prepared. but with things i’ll actually use. i have no financial investments. that feels almost as silly as building an underground bunker with decades of supplies. i wouldn’t want to live for decades in that bunker.

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@rabcyr there's an old (70s? 80s?) prepping-adjacent book that argues that basic prepping *is* investment if you're working class, particularly when inflation reigns as it does most of the time when the banksters are successfully pulling the strings.

I'm on board with that theory in part because literally every time I prepped for a potential disaster it ended up helping me during unrelated hard times due to poverty.

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