@noiob I can't. I think very many people are changed permanently by their knowledge and have difficulty seeing what life is like for others without it.
@noiob true for most tools most of the time (by far, I'm sure, for you in particular) but can you even clearly remember not understanding what RAM is?
@noiob interesting. I'm really not sure about that. I think it's a snobby attitude from coders who don't know what it's like not to write scripts in their spare time.
@noiob should. Truth is, everyone runs into a reason to know more eventually.
@noiob so I heard, but … I mean … shouldn't we, as a country or beyond, actually be teaching people to code? Software runs everything. Program or be programmed, right? Freedom in a tech-based world is enabled by computer literacy.
@deshipu good one.
@deshipu I'm actually deeply curious where that line should be drawn between coding and … the rest of it
@deshipu okay, well that list is a mess, but I think you are talking about business investments. Sure ed-tech is a thing. I meant investment from government in the future of the country.
Somehow the #learntocode meme passed me by. What's your take on that?
Personally, I see the need for high level programming environments, and I have for a long time. Such a thing would certainly boost the economy and make learning to code a reasonable goal for a whole lot more people. By definition.
@deshipu well, paying the teachers would be a great start, but we need investment in education across the board.
@rvk I imagine this stuff is some combination of generative and manual work? Is there a vision?
@rvk hmm what is this?
@ashwinvis I don't know, but good luck 👍🏻
@amolith I occasionally consider writing an app that would push-button start an instance of some free (as in freedom) server on a cloud of your choosing. I see you run several yourself. What are your thoughts about that kind of self-serve model? (user would, of course, have to have the cloud or computer ready with creds and/or cards.)
Last night, I started paying $5/mo for #sourcehut. Based on the UI alone, it doesn't seem to be as "modern" as solutions like GitLab, GitHub, Gitea, etc. When you started reading the documentation, however, holy shit. The amount of time Drew must have put into developing it is insane and $5 is really the *least* I can do. If I had more money to give, I would; in an ideal world, I would be perfectly happy giving $20-$30/mo for sourcehut.
If you haven't already, I highly recommend looking into it. Don't just stop at the surface-level docs either; really dig into them and see for yourself what all it can do.
@ashwinvis maybe it would be less work to fork the firebase library, and build the app against the new dependency?
@bclindner that poor kitty
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