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It is so nice when technology works.

Got myself some train tickets (I like trains! 🚆 ), confirmation went to my e-mail address which I self-host using @yunohost.

I read the e-mail in the Mail app on my @nextcloud instance (on the same yunohost server), and of course it helpfully suggested I add the travel dates and relevant info into my Nextcloud calendar.

We *can* have nice things. Anyone who says cannot be user-friendly is lying through their teeth.

@rysiek @yunohost @nextcloud

NextCloud is excellent, would recommend to anyone wanting to take control of their data.

It does not require any skills beyond what you would need to use Google's services.

@FediFollows @yunohost @nextcloud it's honestly quite something how far Nextcloud has gone since forking from ownCloud. And it shows how important it is to have a good (and sustainable!) way of interacting with your developer community, and of listening to your users.

I remember spending a month or so trying to fix some bugs in ownCloud Calendar app, only to submit a MR/PR which got promptly ignored. As soon as NC fork happened, I moved over in a heartbeat.

@FediFollows @rysiek @yunohost @nextcloud
Just ordered my own Nextbox. It's due to arrive on Tuesday. Let's see if I'm able to get it running.

@FediFollows @yunohost @rysiek @nextcloud yup and thanks to Docker it's even freaking easy to setup for self hosting these days.

@rysiek I'm curious if you think "Anyone who says cannot be user-friendly is lying through their teeth" is literally true, or if you're just emoting

@CodingItWrong largely emoting, by using a very strong, overly broad, and impossible to prove statement ("anyone who X, is Y"), to push back against another oft-repeated very strong, overly broad, and impossible to prove statement ("FLOSS cannot be user-friendly").

@rysiek @nextcloud @yunohost But interoperation is an important part of that, instead of creating multiple independent ecosystems. And that's where things get messy.

@Zergling_man @nextcloud @yunohost sure, but my experience, as described in my toot, is exactly that of interoperability between a train tickets vendor, my e-mail system, my MUA, and my calendar app.

@rysiek @yunohost @nextcloud Fair point. I'm just a tad suspicious of nextcloud to nextcloud being via a standard.

@rysiek @Zergling_man @nextcloud @yunohost “ecosystems” in that sense is a capitalist pr rebranding - the true name is “lock in”.

back before around 2009 we used to have these things called “standards” instead.

@zens @Zergling_man @nextcloud @yunohost and we should get them back. Services like Nextcloud and tools like Yunohost are a good way to start.

My experience with Nextcloud (and that's... years at this point) is that it really focuses on open standards. iCal, WebDAV, all sorts of nice things.

@rysiek @yunohost @nextcloud wait, nextcloud can do that? :O Which train company did you buy the tickets from?

@rysiek @yunohost @nextcloud remind me to shout at my ISP to give me a static IPaddrwss so I can sort all that again.

@MinimalClick @yunohost @nextcloud there are ways around this. One is to host on IPv6 only, you'll have an easier time of getting a static IPv6 than IPv4 (duh).

The other is : pagekite.net/

@rysiek @yunohost @nextcloud thanks for the heads up on pagekite. I shall look into this more. 👍🏼

@MinimalClick @yunohost @nextcloud sure thing. PageKite's developer used to be pretty active on fedi, sadly hasn't posted anything for a while: @bjarni.

@rysiek @MinimalClick @yunohost @nextcloud Or use the IPv4 of your ISP regardless. I don't have a static one, but it changes so infrequently, it really doesn't matter. If it changes too much, you can still do some dyndns thing either on your domain directly, or on a subdomain of a service and cname/alias your domain to it. One problem I do still have is that mine blocks the port for outgoing mails :(

Pagekit looks promising though, I think I'll look into that as well and see if it can solve my mail problem :)
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