Feels like it’s wrong to be an experienced dev who loves dev.
“With your experience, you could be doing these tech designs or writing docs or managing a team or...”
“No thanks, I like devving”
“You have no career ambition!”
“Wrong. I want to be a better dev who actually does dev work.”
@mkflint One should never feel bad about striving to be a better 'individual contributor' -- knowing yourself and knowing you don't want to go into management (which is an entirely different skill) is entirely understandable.
@skullvalanche I’m totally opted-out of the management thing. My problem is, as an individual contributor, i only contribute noise in meetings.
I’d much rather spend my time pairing with other devs, and nurturing the next generation of senior engineers.
@mkflint how many times I've had this conversation. The assumed progression to management of any sort just doesn't appeal to me.
Also: how many times have I talked with my manager about how they wished they were still a dev.
(Probably every manager I’ve ever had)
@mkflint God, this is painfully real. I'm in Software Testing and it's a similar tune: constantly being encouraged to 'move up' into managerial roles or customer-facing work like business analysis or user experience. Always being pushed away from the techie work.
@mkflint So much this; I don’t think I have the right temperament to be a manager but I love _building_ things, and I’m always looking for ways to be better at that and all the other “soft” skills that are so important to be a good dev.
I also really enjoy mentoring less experienced devs (been at this for 20 years now) because it’s a great way to increase your impact, just wish I had more opportunities to do that right now since my entire team is mid/senior folks.
@mkflint I've thought this for a while, and I still think this is how I'm going to be in years when this comes up.
No, I'm bad at managing people, and I don't want to.
I'm doing development because I'm good at it and enjoy it. Let me be where I'm contributing and like being!
@mkflint Well, on the one hand, companies should offer two paths, for example specialist and management.
On the other hand, at least from my experience, companies have a way harder time to find project managers, that also know their subject, than finding specialists. So it's kinda natural for them to ask all of their capable staff to move into management roles. :D
@mkflint I know some good devs who took the career route and are now good, well payed but unhappy managers, team leads or product owners. They all say they'd rather be coding again.
@mkflint Yes. That happened to my spouse. He left corporateland and started out for himself as a dev as soon as he got the opportunity.
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