There are three major players in California. UC (pulled out), CSU (negotiating), and SCELC, which is endorsing/supporting the UC pull out (https://www.islab.gseis.ucla.edu/2019/09/24/scelc-supports-the-university-of-californias-push-for-open-access-to-research/)
Audience member: We need to fix the system. In 3 years, we're going to be back here. Need a paradigm shift.
Let's just publish our own journal.
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