@kieran social welfare is great provided it goes to specific channels that drift people back towards working.

@kieran I actually encountered this on some SM site. They were criticizing socialism and bringing up Venezuela, and I said what about Western Europe? And they were like that's not socialism.

Then I said "then you're OK with adopting their systems over here since it's not socialism..."

.... crickets....

@kieran I love it when the people have put ZERO thought into their arguments and can be refuted with one simple question.

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