Kaidan, KDE's instant messaging app for Jabber, gets financial support from the NLnet Foundation to implement end-to-end encryption.
@kde hmmm wouldn't it be better to merge this with neochat (or the other way round)? Users shouldn't care if there is matrix or xmpp running beneath a beautiful and stunnig chat app.
@brad @tuxflo There were some plans in making shared chat components so that it is easier to develop a kirigami chat application but abstracting the backends is too complicated and we would need to make some compromises. Better is to have 2 good applications, each for one protocol than one big application that doesn't work correctly.
@kde Why, if we have Matrix?
@0 PGP is not suitable for most users of instant messaging.... the want it to just work and not want to setup many things.... and as far as I understand kaidan aims to be a client for those people
There's an #XEP draft out there to make what's essentially an #XMPP analogous to #AutoCrypt. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with #OpenPGP that would stop it being used in trust on first contact mode. And you still have the option of trust + verify (i.e., have / have not checked fingerprints) and trust + verify + sign.
@0 with the current it does not have patent problems anymore AFAIR
Patent as in obvious.
No. I use #OpenPGP in a business context as part of certain processes but in general #email, #XMPP and #telephone conversations happen in the clear, both business-related (unless initiated #encrypted by the other party, which does happen occasionally) and personal.
Sensitive stuff is only discussed face to face and always stays out of *any* computer system.
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