Hey, English question: what's a gender-neutral version of "you guys"? Because I blurted "you people" and that made someone angry at me, thinking I was being dismissive 😕
Thanks everyone for the ideas/discussion. To give a bit more context: it was a whole-team discussion, and I wanted to refer to a subteam, and ask "hey, you guys are the ones maintaining this system, right?". But then I realized I was talking to a lady, and "guys" might be not OK, so I switched to "people". That wasn't a good choice 🤦♂️
"you folks" as @ellotheth suggested would work, I guess? But "y'all" would address the whole group instead of the subteam, right?
@neon Maybe, but it's a bit more complex: https://mastodon.technology/@jon_valdes/102008570623084697
You people is considered offensive by many, due to certain overtones. Y'all is very widespread in parts of the US, but there a number of regional dialectal alternatives such as 'youins' and 'youse'
Or, more formally, you could just address a group as “everyone.”
But yes, “you people” is often said in a derogatory way to address a group of people (sometimes a whole demographic) condescendingly.
But drop the “you” and just say “people” and that’s usually ok.
English is awkward.
@InvaderXan indeed 😔
I quite like in French, the way you can just say tout le monde.
"You people" doesn't have to be derogatory or condescending ("you people with your cool tech and basic troubleshooting ability"), but it's always other-ing in a way that "you guys" and "y'all" and "folks" are not. "You people" as opposed to "people like me". If you want to highlight that opposition between us and them, use "you people"; otherwise skip it.
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