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Usual Polish Triggers (Pope John Paul II) 

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John Paul II (The Pope) was BIG here. **Polish Pope**. Up to this day:

1) He is considered to be an absolute authority, on everything, especially abortion;
2) Many believe he singlehandedly STOPPED COMMUNISM;
3) A lot of schools are named by his name;
3a) Often "Having The Pope as patron" is used as an excuse for e.g. start the school year with a mandatory mass (this is technically illegal);

(to be continued)

Usual Polish Triggers (Pope John Paul II) 

4) Some hospitals are named after him;
4a) At some point Church disliked that, because what happens when woman gets an abortion in such hospital!?
4b) This is not a "problem" now since getting legal abortion is almost impossible;
5) He is widely believed to be a spotless person.

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Pope John Paul II (no other triggers) Meaning of 2137 in Polish Culture 

When "The Pope" died it was a **big thing** in .

People would go to "John Paul II" street and light lamps on 21:37 (hour of his death).

TV was ranting about: "The JPII Generation" of people that were formed by his everlasting presence (this sounds kinda like God Emperor of Humankind from WH40K);

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Pope John Paul II (no other triggers) Meaning of 2137 in Polish Culture 

Atheists would do a counter offensive, and we started to go to attention stance on 2137 and either: yell "POPE" or sing "The Pope song: youtube.com/watch?v=f_rsLuJvZj .

Random programmers would choose 2137 as "arbitrary number".

Everything in this thread is true, and I did not made up anything. I swear. However if you don't believe its OK. You need to live through it to understand.

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Pope John Paul II (no other triggers) Meaning of 2137 in Polish Culture 

@jacek lmao

Usual Polish Triggers (Pope John Paul II) 

@jacek
> this is technically illegal
huh?

Usual Polish Triggers (Pope John Paul II) 

@Mae @jacek TIL

Polish Law Holy Mass at shool; 

@Mae Having mandatory mass at school is is IMO illegal under law.

1. By the constitution you can't force anyone to be part of "religious ceremonies" ("obrzędy religijne").
2. Atheists believe that this breaks secular character of state;
3. However polish state is not secular per se: we only have Art 25 point 2, where state is "neutral in case of religion";
4. "Technically illegal" means that well this happens and nobody gives a fuck, so good luck with fighting it

Polish Law Holy Mass at shool; 

@Mae
Here is the problematic part of the Constitution:

"Władze publiczne w Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej zachowują bezstronność w sprawach przekonań religijnych, światopoglądowych i filozoficznych, zapewniając swobodę ich wyrażania w życiu publicznym."

Cathoilcs think that it gives them right to have "school masses" (that still can't be mandatory".

Atheists argue that having a ceremony for Catholics and no other is not "neutral".

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