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Ok, 2 things.

1) sopuli.xyz is down, so i am using fapsi.be (thanks @kromonos) to post on Lemmy again (that worked well the last time).

fapsi.be/post/2044

Federation-provided robustness in action ^_^

2) The federation of comments is currently buggy. I have discovered that there were comments under previous one that i did not see from sopuli.

@kromonos @humanetech One of the comments that have not reached me because of federation bugs is yours, HTC.
lemmy.ml/post/84438/comment/84
In the post for Fedijam III (see thread)
I have tried to provide a small explainer on what the jam is.

Also there is a comment regarding streaming that i cannot reply to because fapsi does not display my older posts in the community.

@kromonos , older posts from previously-non-subscribed communities are not visible?

@houkimenator this federation bug is already applied to a ticket on Github to the project and known. They're working on it but as I'm not part of the development team, I can't say, when they find time to fix it completely.

Normally, when someone subscribes to a new topic on another instance, only the new posts will be fetched. At least that's how I've experienced it so far.

@humanetech

@kromonos @humanetech


Ok. Fetching-since-subscription feels reasonable, but yet i feel that if one searches for a post url explicitly it should be requested even from the past.

@LemmyDev, Will open an issue if there is not already one. Especially for small instances that fells like a correct way for people to be able to leave comments for posts they have discovered outside of their server by other mechanisms.

@kromonos @humanetech @LemmyDev

Opened an issue github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issu

If there is no way to fetch older posts to interact with them, then small and just new servers will end up heavily biased against when choosing a home instance.
Because they cannot interact with the majority of the posts already written.

@humanetech @LemmyDev @kromonos @houkimenator i believe this is also why Mastodon can’t interact with Lemmy atm

@kromonos @humanetech @LemmyDev

@kromonos , not fetching posts is a problem with fapsi.be .
I conducted an experiment on lemmy.ml with some african community that no one on lemmy.ml has subscribed to, and lemmy.ml fetched the post when asked to fetch a direct url.

github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issu

@kromonos @humanetech @LemmyDev

Hm. Technology was really not subscribed to. So maybe the problem is even narrower than unsubscribed post fetching

try fetching lemmy.ml/post/84438

@kromonos @humanetech @LemmyDev

Yes, the problem is narrower.
lemmy.ml/post/71519 fetches but lemmy.ml/post/82214 does not

So, it is about fetching posts that originate from sopuli.xyz which is now down (even if using urls that are not sopuli.xyz).

@houkimenator that's really strange. Did you already mentioned this behavior in your ticket? Looks like fetching is redirected to the original post instead of the searched one.

@humanetech @LemmyDev

@kromonos @humanetech @LemmyDev

Well, it seems like it is just that fetching in general is limited to original urls (which are also activitypub ids).
So it is not even redirection but rather a lack of it.

for example lemmy.ml/post/85234 is also not searchable.

Thx Nutomic for clarifying.

github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issu

@houkimenator ahh. So directl URLs to a post are only fetchable by remote instances, when the URL matches to the instance it was originally posted to? 🤔 Good to know. Thanks for clarifying.

@humanetech @LemmyDev

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