@robey Also depends on parents telling children about these things. Carbon copies still exist for some things.

@gudenau ok now i'm curious! what was the last thing you saw that made a carbon copy :)

@robey A receipt that had to be signed.

@gudenau ahhhhhhh yup! :)

@robey @gudenau Triplicate forms are sorta like carbon copies

@robey @gudenau Everytime there is an "incident report" at my kids' daycare the form has a carbon copy.

@z @robey @gudenau there's pads you can buy for receipts, packet labels, cheque books, that kind of thing. The first is useful for small businesses.

@robey @gudenau I live in Germany, where carbon copies are still a thing and regularly used. #neuland

@attilakinali @robey @gudenau All health care workers' receipts in BE are mandatory carbon copy documents. Which means they have to use impact printers and sometimes even typewriters.
I do agree these are not the real thing, as they don't rely on an externally supplied piece of carbon paper, but contain paper coated with a non-staining thin transfer layer on the back.

@geert @robey @gudenau Hmm.. interesting. And why can't they just print two copies?

@attilakinali @robey @gudenau Because the official forms have (8-digit) serial numbers.

@geert @robey @gudenau And how does using serial numbers prevent people from printing something twice?

@attilakinali @geert @robey @gudenau the second print would have a higher number

@attilakinali @robey @gudenau It does not. But the documents are valid only when using the official forms with the serial numbers. Allowing printed copies would make it way too easy to create fake documents.

@robey @gudenau some invoice forms that are filled manually

@gudenau @robey Yup. Triplicate forms are still common, so even the youth should know what a carbon copy is.

@gudenau @robey
In french we use CC/CCi : "Copie Conforme" (Exact copy) / "Copie Conforme Invisible" (Invisible Exact copie).
"Copie Conforme" being old administrative vocabulary.

@robey @gudenau There's actually a confounding factor there-- amongst people who aren't familiar with literal carbon copies, it's often retronymed to "courtesy copy".

The floppy disk save icon,
Solarize, Dodge and burn etc. in Photoshop
Give me a bell (phones stopped having actual bells a while back)
There are probably thousands of aging references to the largely obsolete.

@robey
@gudenau

@sammorrowdrums @robey There's also the bell character!

@gudenau @sammorrowdrums i think my favorite of these is the handset icon for "answer voice call" and "hang up"

- red v green (bad for color blindness)
- different only in orientation
- icon of a device that hasn't existed for decades

@robey @sammorrowdrums Handsets still exist though.

@robey @gudenau it still exists in quite a lot of contexts

@tn5421 Yeah that's how it works. BCC includes CC however.

@tn5421

Maybe i get you wrong, but isn't it the otherway round?

People on BCC see anyone in TO and CC, but no one (including everyone on BCC) sees people that are on BCC.

@gudenau

@cybastl @tn5421 Everyone sees to and cc, pinky the recipient of bcc sees there name on bcc.

@ed_packet Wikipedia doesn't seem to have anything on it.

@gudenau

ncc is "no carbon copy". it's implemented by putting a name and address on the cc line, but not actually sending the cc to the person in question.

@ed_packet Huh, funky.

@sungo Used and know how to assemble the components for use in the appropriate authoring technology.

I don't believe I ran across the BCC form prior to electronic formats. Wikipedia suggests that BCC did exist in paper forms, though I have a hunch it was not a widely-used / widely-known initialism.

I'd be interested if anyone could confirm otherwise.

Google Ngram viewer suggests that "cc" was the vastly more frequently occuring term:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=bcc%2Ccc%2Ccarbon+copy%2C+blind+carbon+copy&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cbcc%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Ccc%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Ccarbon%20copy%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cblind%20carbon%20copy%3B%2Cc0

(I suspect the ~1931 dip, and ~1939 peak corresponded to the Great Depression and either New Deal or WWII practices.)

(Also: Other forms of the initialisms are confounding results.)

@gudenau

@ringo Pretty much yeah.

@gudenau :p got ya. i thought most people knew what that was. hope your having a good evening though?

@ringo Weather says no.

@gudenau bummer! hopefully that improves. here i cannot figure out what to do with my evening, i made a song, i eh, it is so weird not being in a relationship since 2008, i feel like a capable rudder without an ocean to pilot a boat through, at many junctures. feeling existential. heh