@ocdtrekkie How did you hear about Luke, Jacob? Was there an announcement?

@gideonro Honestly I think it was just noticing he was tweeting a lot more about YouTube stuff. I think it was around the same time Spaces, his pet project while on G+, got canned.

@gideonro I can't find why I thought he was on about YouTube at the moment, but I guess his LinkedIn just says "internal product development tools" now.

@ocdtrekkie That makes sense. Spaces seemed pretty ill-conceived to me.

@gideonro My understanding is that releasing products is more praised at Google than just improving them. People have a strong incentive there to launch new products, even if they are not likely to succeed.

@jwehrle Yeah, the community moderation tools have been a complete disaster.

Do you find Twitter more ADHD than here? To be honest, I find things hard to track fully here from time to time.

@gideonro

Federated stream: more ADHD than Twitter.
Local stream: mostly in Japanese.
Home stream: a little sparse at the moment.

But maybe I'm not doing this quite right.

I see the same here tonight, as well as you. Of course since I AM very ADHD I can deal with it. Lots like many years ago on IRC back in 1999 or so. Will watch and learn. instances and hashtags seem to be helpful.

@smays Yeah, I'm not going to suddenly disappear either, and to be honest, I wouldn't have fired off that critique if I didn't care.

And yeah, I could see many Google Plussers not feeling quite at home here at this point at least.

@Averly Loved your "So long and thanks for all the fish" meme.

I've actually gotten so much out of that community. I've learned a ton from the people I follow and interact with there. That is what is so damn maddening about the state of things. The management is killing something that could have been (and actually was at one point) really great.

@Masek I know what you mean. I'm hoping (but not banking) that there will be some intervention.

@gideonro @Masek given that the Google management ignores their own tool (except Yonathan, who at least links to his medium posts) meanwhile, I would not hope too much.

I didn't look into their business suite, but if it's integrated there, that might be what sticks around.

@cynix @Masek Yes, there may be some hope there w/in the GSuite. There's also some real potential for it to take another product planning turn that further distorts/contorts the user experience...

@gideonro @Masek yeah a possible contortion to a "business case" is what I'd fear most.

@cynix @gideonro As paying GSuite user I would profit from it. But even as a business app, Google is with G+ lightyears behind the market standard.

@Masek @cynix You mean Slack?

@gideonro @cynix One example. Microsoft and Facebook are reported to have or work on such tools as well. FB Workplace (so I was told) shell be quite good.