:blobnotlike: blocking ads is evil grr
:blobuwu: HTTP is a pull-based medium. it is within the original philosophy of HTTP to selectively pull the data, for example, a device that doesn't support images won't download them. by circumventing ad "blocking", you are spitting in the face of HTTP. a more accurate term would be ad rejection. ads are not "blocked", they are simply not asked for.

@lynnesbian Which is why Google and pals were pushing (pun intended) HTTP 2.0. Also why they’re pushing for obfuscated/binary formats. We’re already seeing CDNs bake in content and ads and proxy tracking via first-party calls etc., to circumvent blocking. In extension-based blockers that can run arbitrary JavaScript, what we have is literally a JavaScript battle in your browser as the blocker and anti-blocking scripts go at it in a game of cat of mouse. Adtech is malware.

@aral @lynnesbian push isn't forced; the protocol sends a push frame to say it wants to push and the client is ultimately in control of accepting or rejecting it. The binary format saves processing time (e.g. faster) on both ends, in both directions, and takes less bandwidth to transport and power, making it better for the environment.

@dshafik @aral @lynnesbian I think it's popular here to hate Google, justified or not.
A lot of the tech enables soooo many cool things but "nooo they just want to push ads on you". Ffs people, there's a guy running a free photoshop in a browser. Web and web getting capabilities is a _good_ thing for us all!


@zladuric I'm not a fan of Google, but HTTP/2 isn't google either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@dshafik no it isn't. But they're the ones who push the most with a lot of these things, including http/2. Also, google might be easy to hate. But that's 85 thousand people! You can't hate them all, some of these people are amazing, a lot of them are awesome and most of them are just cool. (Not you, people in general).

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