:blobnotlike: blocking ads is evil grr
:blobuwu: HTTP is a pull-based medium. it is within the original philosophy of HTTP to selectively pull the data, for example, a device that doesn't support images won't download them. by circumventing ad "blocking", you are spitting in the face of HTTP. a more accurate term would be ad rejection. ads are not "blocked", they are simply not asked for.

@lynnesbian Which is why Google and pals were pushing (pun intended) HTTP 2.0. Also why they’re pushing for obfuscated/binary formats. We’re already seeing CDNs bake in content and ads and proxy tracking via first-party calls etc., to circumvent blocking. In extension-based blockers that can run arbitrary JavaScript, what we have is literally a JavaScript battle in your browser as the blocker and anti-blocking scripts go at it in a game of cat of mouse. Adtech is malware.

@aral @lynnesbian also, TLS is an obfuscated binary format, arguably… are you against that too?

@dshafik @aral @lynnesbian

Uhm... well I'm against TLS abuse...

Would you like to prove I'm wrong? :-D

@Shamar what abuse do you mean? Except for rogue CAs/nation states, and — to a lesser degree because HSTS — network operators, I'm ignorant of other abuses. Obviously I'm against those abuses I mentioned though. (Also, removed others, as a courtesy).

@dshafik

Exactly: very good example of #incompetence and #GroupThink: disable JavaScript by default and you will completely block the attack described and with proper mitigations it also improve security when the user willfully enable it: bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.

#LetsEncrypt can make them worse: fireeye.com/blog/threat-resear

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@dshafik

In general, people who cannot think a context where NOT to use a technology, are not ready to use it and need more study of the topic.

@Shamar this is a very polite way of calling me ignorant, nice job 👍🏼

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