@strypey
@jeffcliff
I agree with every step of your reasoning but the first, fundamental one; seek of the truth. IIUC, you assume that the belief of person A that group X constitutes a danger for the health of the community as true, avoiding to apply any tool available for justifying if that is really true, basing your following arguments on this. So, you suggest that there is no single truth but many ones, living in the mind of each of us? Which leads us to the Socrates vs Protagoras discussion.

@strypey
In such a case, accepting X is OK. But if the primary role of group X is to offer a safe harbor to users that believe that members of group Y, Z should be exterminated, then we should probably consider adopting some measures to protect us, even by blocking X.
@jeffcliff

@strypey @jeffcliff
IMO, the "why" and the "how" we use the basic infrastructure also matters. We may still need some basic rules and institutions to ensure that the infrastructure is used for the free creation of communities as well as their prosperity, instead of being used to damage them.

@strypey
I like the concept of an 100% open fundamental infrastructure, like the roads or the rivers, to be used by everyone. It is probably the simplest and the safest design pattern. Then, the communities -built on top of them- may freely design, implement and enforce their own rules. But... What should the communities do when some actors use the roads for demonstrations that lead to progroms against minorities or pollute the water damaging the living of peaceful communities?

@jeffcliff

It's pretty amazing that you can develop an app using KDE's libraries in KDE's IDE, have wonderful artists make your project artwork in KDE's painting app and edit a video about it all in KDE's video editor. The number of organizations that could tell the same story can be counted on one hand. The scope of what the #KDE community does is stunning.

When you expect something like this:
kavalapost.gr/wp-content/uploa
But since the dream of growth and investments on tourism has come true, you find this kind of vandalism...

KDE developers have fixed the bug that allowed the execution of potentially malicious code. The update is already in neon and will appear in your distro shortly.

mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-ann

The tragedy of being so competent to discover a 0day vulnerability, but to opt for being famous for harming users instead of defending them.

Personally, I think the level of mistrust is too low for ALL of these companies, and the level of trust is concerning.

"Which IoT Companies Do People Most Mistrust?"

pcmag.com/news/369730/which-io

@strypey
IMO, you connect two actions of the same type (the action of blocking), bypassing the reason of the blocking (defending the federated community from hate speech vs imposing US sanctions) and the quality of the blocked content (hate speech vs code)

The Linux App Summit is coming to Barcelona in November! KDE and @gnome join forces to create a strong, free and open app ecosystem.

dot.kde.org/2019/07/31/linux-a

The Greek government canceled an in-progress project about a future release of new identity cards (it will call for new proposals). According to the officials, the reason of the cancellation was a leak of the specifications of the project. So, transparency and openness on such a security-wise critical project, are not expected features. They are bugs to be solved...

My new hobby: Adding public drinking fountains (and toilets, but it's mostly fountains that are missing so far) to #OpenStreetMap. This is so important for people to find, but still so few are marked in #OSM. At least here in Norway. It's a shame, really. And the hotter the climate gets, the more important it will become. @openstreetmap

@Sturmflut
I am pretty sure it will look better since most apps are still under development. In the future, it will perform really good on , as we are working in cooperation with the pinephone community.
@kde

Plasma Mobile under construction; screenshots of the latest work, taken from a Nexus 5X running the edge image.
plasma-mobile.org/screenshots/

At the moment, many countries face unprecedented heat waves. How can we effectively tackle this in the long term?
1. Abandon the mindless fossil-fueled obsession
2. Transform the episodic emergency services to a chronic, public, free system

counterpunch.org/2019/07/25/ki

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