Calling smartphone equipped teenagers 'digital natives' is a mistake because a smartphone makes you a consumer rather than a native of anything.

If you want a child to become a digital native give them an actual computer instead of a corporate controlled and curated consumer device.

@polychrome

Yes a hundred times over. Been thinking about this in the background a lot, and hadn't found words for it.

@deejoe @polychrome

As much as I agree with the sentiment, I try to find terms that won't put a person I'm trying to educate on defense. Once people who are being used by a system feel called out, they stop listening and considering options other than their default reality.

@RussSharek

Understood.

I'd settle for however we can deconstruct "digital native" in a way that reveals the exploitative system for which it carries water.

@polychrome

@RussSharek

The other thing that came to mind is: "They call these things 'smart' because that's how the people who design them feel when they convince you not just to accept being tracked and manipulated by them, but to pay for it, too."

That also isn't flattering to the marks, though. I'm not sure how much scope there is for telling someone bad news but making them feel good to hear it?

@polychrome

@deejoe @polychrome

I often assume they call these nefarious devices smart because their ultimate goal is to hypnotize their users into an unthinking stupor.

@RussSharek @deejoe @polychrome i like the invitation to an alternative solution. like not bullying whatsapp users, and instead invite them to use my shared matrix server for example. like to argument in improv theater. its connecting with the other person with "and" ...

@stereo

make a connection? yes

offer a path? maybe, but now maybe we're recapitulating the problematic consumerist framing.

my connection point is that we're all in this together, it's not their fault, certainly not at the level of, say, having chosen the wrong brand of fabric softener and it'll be fixed by picking a different one.

it's systemic.

@polychrome @RussSharek

@deejoe @stereo @polychrome

Definitely.

The blame is on companies, not people who want to stay connected to their loved ones.

The network effect is a hack on human tribal survival systems, which is why people react so strongly to the concept of leaving those virtual spaces.

Evolutionary process never considered what happens when the lions own the cave in which you're taking refuge.

@stereo @polychrome @deejoe

Yes, and that collaborative spirit sets a more productive tone for fostering change.

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