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@codeberg

Saved. Maybe I would get anything actually done one day, so then I could use it.

@codeberg
Super… I'll add it to my projects with their next updates... thank you @codeberg

@codeberg
Not that I am in any way against codeberg or Gitea in general, but I am curious if there is any reason to switch to Codeberg from Gitlab.com.

@minecraftchest1 @codeberg There is also salsa.debian.org, which is an Open Source Gitlab instance, run by an Open Source non-profit - and not limited to Debian in any way.

@jgoerzen
I might check them out. I am also aware of OpenCode.net, part of the OpenDesktop project.
@codeberg

@minecraftchest1
For gitea in general: docs.gitea.io/en-us/comparison

I would also like to point out the version of gitlab hosted on gitlab.com is the enterprise edition, which is not FOSS
@codeberg

@minecraftchest1
gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-
>Subject to the
foregoing, it is forbidden to copy, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
and/or sell the Software.

@codeberg

@BobIsMyManager @minecraftchest1 Yes, and now please compare e.g. to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_sou and "made freely available for possible modification and redistribution"

Also see opensource.org/

@codeberg
Yea, not all the freedoms required for it to be open source/free software are granted, as you are only allowed to "modify this Software and publish patches to the Software". On top of that, those freedoms are revoked if you cancel your gitlab EE subscription.
@minecraftchest1

@BobIsMyManager
I haven't ever read the licenses before. I just stated what I remembered reading off the site, but now I can't fins it.
@codeberg

@minecraftchest1
Often when describing how products work, companies will often try to mislead you. In a license, being misleading is terrible for them, so they never are inside the license. This is why I would actually read the license rather than take their word for it.
@codeberg

@BobIsMyManager
Good point. I never had a reason to read the license, but it also made since that their would be restrictions. I think we can all agree though that source available and contributions accepted is better then github, even if we disagree on how much.
@codeberg

@minecraftchest1 @codeberg is OpenSource and regarding GitLab only the Core is OpenSource...

@Beowulf
Enterprise is also open source, it just still has the licensing code in there. They say so on their own site. They want enterprises to be able to modify and contribute back to core, and going the Open Source route was the easier path. Just remember that open source = free of charge.
@codeberg

@minecraftchest1 @codeberg Also: gitlab is a multi million dollar stock traded company. Codeberg is basically a non-profit run by volunteers/members, inviting you to become one.

@mray
I didn't know that about Gitlab. I knew it was a for profit company, but I didn't know they had that high of profits, or that they are publicly traded. It seems to me though that they are more community focused and self hosted friendly then Github though, which was the main reason I switched. Gitlab is also open source which is a important to me (and the reason I switched).
@codeberg

@minecraftchest1 @codeberg You don't have google captchas on codeberg also the only javascript you need for a successful login is loaded from the Codeberg servers etc. …
TLDR: Codeberg is what gitlab once was: an awesome non-enterprisey git service.

@baschdel
I don't see Gitlab pushing enterprises at all. I don't see any enterprises only features that I might need any time in the future.
@codeberg

@baschdel
I haven't seen Capacha's used on Gitlab.com at all, and I don't have any reason to believe that Gitlab is disrespecting my privacy at all, so Javascript isn't a concern for me. While I think Gitlab relies a bit to much on Javascript, is also hasn't impacted me at all (besides me having to allow it in NoScript). I can however see why it might bother some people.
@codeberg

@minecraftchest1 @codeberg non-enterprisey in this case is means simple, efficient, transparent and optionally opinionated.
If you ever watched a cisco switch booting up, had to use a badly made IPMI webinterface of a server that costs thousands of Euros or seen an old java megalith that does terrible things in the background you know what I mean by enterprisey.

@codeberg
For me, the biggest reason for not liking Gitea as much as Gitlab is due to CI not being as integrated into Gitea as it is in Gitlab and Github (a minor complaint), and due to me not liking the UI as much (major reason, probably can be changed to look closer to my liking fairly easily).

I do like how lightweight Gitea is though, and I can get used to it if I had a need to. I also like how much easier Gitea is to configure compared to Gitlab as well.

@codeberg
To everyone who has commented, thanks for the input. I have learned quite a bit. I don't see a reason for me to migrate personaly, but I also see reasons why others would like to. Thanks again for the input.

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