@Gargron Hey man, do you ever plan on joining the community at SocialHub? Or Socialcg? Do you ever plan on joining any group that's trying to do "ActivityPub" and not just Mastodon?
You're banning a core member that actually participates in the small but dedicated ActivityPub group. They're one of the members responsible for getting interop legal language in the EU's DSA/DMA working with MPs and the EU Comission.
@Gargron There is no easy way to say this: your continued lack of engagement on anything higher-level than Mastodon, really hurts the community at large. This is objectively an instance where your continued lack of action in engaging in ActivityPub-level anything is actually hostile to the community at large. We are losing a great community member with excellent communication and knowledge because of this.
I am forced to treat you and your masto.social as actively hostile to the principles of ActivityPub.
@cj That core member has threatened to have the police raid my home earlier this year in retaliation for basic rule enforcement, two different mods had to take action two different times against his account for refusing to comply with our rules as of now; I have no obligation to provide service after hostile behavior and I’m extending great courtesy to him by giving him 7 days advance notice instead of suspending him immediately
@Gargron Yes, that sucks and is inexcusable. I'm not here to defend that behavior. I think for that incident, we've all been "that's not cool at all".
However, I am going to challenge your behavior. Things req. to escalate to this are also in part a reflection of the (lax) moderation on your instance. For ex, I would ask the unapologetically black instance, but they're also no longer here.
In my mind, there is a moderation problem, and it hurts every other community but yours.
@Gargron We should not be creating the federated environment where when you do a moderation action against them, it's in such a way where they want to completely leave the federated platform forever and never come back. For people that are championing and advancing that federated platform.
That is the root problem that seems to not be adequately addressed here.
@Gargron given that you've never really engaged with the ActivityPub community, it's clear there's no opportunity for soft touch "hey man keep doing your thing but just please don't do it on my instance" sort of understanding rooted in camraderie. Which could of helped here.
Instead, given your continued pattern of not engaging the federated dev community within which mastodon lives (only opportunistically), it is really really hard for me to not take the pessimistic view.
@cj This has nothing to do with lax moderation, and if anything, it’s the example of the opposite. I don’t know why you’re even taking it there. Things required to escalate to this are a guy posting gore at other people then issuing threats in response to moderation measures meant to prevent him from doing that, nothing more.
@Gargron I'm not interested in rehashing the tit-for-tat escalation. One man's picture of shark gore is another independent reporter's photojournalism over illegal poaching of endangered species. I don't care about that.
My point simple point is, I am providing you feedback how your handling of this is impacting other people and other communities. It is negative.
If you don't understand where I am coming from, and do not wish to, that's fine. I've made myself heard.
This Mastodon instance is for people interested in technology. Discussions aren't limited to technology, because tech folks shouldn't be limited to technology either!