We wrapped up Star Trek Discovery’s second season last night. Visually stunning, fun, well-acted, with a great score. But also: poorly paced, convoluted, and confusing to follow the plot.

I can’t dislike it, mainly because of Michelle Yeoh and Anson Mount, but I wish I could have liked it more. It was so preoccupied with tying itself into existing cannon that I think it lost itself. Changing show runners halfway through the season probably hurt, too.

Hopefully season three is even better!


I mean, it’s been two seasons I can only make a few of the Discovery’s bridge crew.

To contrast: we’re four episodes into Strange New Worlds and we already know the tragic backstories on Uhura, Una, M’Benga and La’an – all the characters feel more real and the world feels lived-in.

SNW is so good! It has no right being this good this quickly!

@ashfurrow SNW is AMAZING. It's THE Star Trek I've been waiting 20 years for. You can relate to the people and connect with them. It has that classic cheese of Trek, but you REALLY get the "explore strange new worlds. Seek out new life and new civilizations" feel that Star Trek has been missing since TNG imo.

DS9 and Voyager were great in their own way. I wasn't a fan of Enterprise. Discovery and Picard I've given up on.


@ozoned @ashfurrow I love them all. Each has its own quirkiness, old and new. I just immerse myself in each series and go with the flow. It'll be a long while before I see as I'm on free to air satellite. But, if I had to pick a favourite it would probably be the initial run of Enterprise.

@gruff Well when you get a chance for SNW, and you enjoy original Trek, I highly recommend you check it out. :-)

@ashfurrow Discovery gets better in Season Three, and they flesh out the crew a bit more (and don't have to deal with pre-existing continuity). Strange New Worlds has had possibly the strongest first season of any Trek yet, though.

@ashfurrow my only theory is that they got to soft-launch it with the intersections with Discovery S2, which gave the writers and key actors a chance to find their voices

@bruceiv @ashfurrow Disco S3 and S4 still suffer from the same overall arc of every season of Discovery so far, at least for me, which is that by the end of the season it's all about the big macro plots but it's all going so breathlessly yet dumbly that it's impossible to care about what's going on plot-wise. Big obvious questions are going unasked while huge rousing speeches are being given twice an episode, a lot of sound and fury signifying, well, yaknow.

Really compounded by how Discovery, and Picard for that matter, seem to think the audience already knows and deeply loves the big cast of new characters who we never see outside of a crisis and thus barely ever get to know the names of, much less form any attachment to or understanding of. I guess we're supposed to have read all the tie-in novels or whatnot . . .

It's funny that SNW fit more "downtime where we get to know the characters" in any given episode so far than Disco or Picard have in entire seasons; hell, last week's SNW episode probably does more than either Disco or Picard have done *in total*. Hopefully the bigshots, who seem distracted with Picard and thus a bit more hands-off with SNW, stay away from the show . . .
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