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I am not happy with iOS 13 on iPhone 6s. It feels like company tries to push me to buy a new device, because battery life became way worse than it was before...

@alexcleac
It happens on Android too. You only get one or two updates Max and they are rushed and unoptimized for battery life.

@boilingsteam on Android I can at least disable most of crap I don’t use to extend battery life and get more or less. I could easily get 2-3 days of inactive usage on a 3 y.o. Android phone, and can no more than a day on 9 months old 6s (a refurbished one)

@alexcleac
I have been on Android for years and I have never seen a phone that can last more than one day and a half, and I don't run anything like messengers and all. Battery life is atrocious everywhere I am afraid.

@boilingsteam There are several things that kill battery the most: Google Play Services (an most of GApps) and almost every React Native application (including Facebook, Instagram, SimpleNote and more, there are too much of them nowadays). All the others are not that bad.

@alexcleac
Yes and Google Play services run by default on a good 90% of android phones if not more as I don't think many people outside of a minority root their phones.

@boilingsteam @alexcleac you can just avoid using anything google related as much as possible even on non-rooted phone.

@hj
You can. I use mostly apps from Fdroid yet I still have an horrible battery life on all my android phones.
@alexcleac

@boilingsteam @alexcleac i also use f-droid mostly and have most of proprietary shit in shelter, battery life is good so far. Don't forget about battery degradation, it's an important factor to battery life. With my previous phone I noticed it pretty vividly - full charge in the morning, come come in the evening without additional charges - 50% left, then months later 25% left, slowly steadily it drops to 15% until eventually its "ok i should charge it at work" and then "ok i shouldn't leave home without a power bank"

@hj
I only buy phones with replaceable batteries so I think I can factor out battery degradation as a factor.
@alexcleac

@boilingsteam @alexcleac how often do you replace them? I had me a Nokia 3310 :unbreakable: that had terrible battery life because battery went bad, even if it's replaceable, the replacement batteries could be cheap shitty chinese knockoffs

@hj
I only buy original batteries (I check this very.carefully) and I replace them every year.
@alexcleac

@boilingsteam if you don't sign in into your google account on the phone, they feel like mostly inactive. This actually was the way I gained almost 20 additional hours of battery life on the phone, including being offline most of the time.

@alexcleac
If you need to be offline most of the time for me that negates completely the point of having a mobile phone :-)

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