I legitimately can't find the Basecamp blog post everyone is complaining about. Did they take it down?

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This is pretty bad. It sure seems like the message is "we don't want to deal with distractions like 'whether we are mistreating people' and 'whether we are making the world a worse place.'"

@CodingItWrong Yup, sounds like “shut up and work”, but it’s hard to picture any nuance in the way it’s phrased.

@meduz @CodingItWrong it seems more and more that tech companies are incapable of anything that can’t be automated. Maybe it’s the personality of the founders or the industry. If the nuance can’t be handled by multivariate testing, they shut down like 4 year olds. Businesses have been dealing with this stuff forever. It’s hard but the discussions are part of being in human society. Not surprisingly they want all the benefits of humans without the downsides.

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> It’s hard but the discussions are part of being in human society. Not surprisingly they want all the benefits of humans without the downsides.

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@CodingItWrong no it’s really not. if someone is legitimately being mistreated, report it to your manager/HR/higher ups. also note that they say this isn’t a zero tolerance policy. they simply want to cut down on divisive/incendiary topics of discussion on work-related platforms.

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> if someone is legitimately being mistreated, report it to your manager/HR/higher ups.

I don't even know where to begin. I'll refrain, but this is not how the real world and humans work.

Now, I'm gently exiting the conversation because I don't have the headspace for this.

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@x @CodingItWrong The key point you’re missing here is that HR exists to protect the company, not the workers. It’ll work sometimes, but it’s far from a guarantee.

@CodingItWrong my two cents: some of this come close to hitting the mark, but the rest of it is so far off that I foresee a mass exodus. But who am i...

@CodingItWrong I reserve the right to change my opinion though... and already I'm reading some nuanced takes, so maybe I spoke too soon :)

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I'm unsure, but leaning towards this being the correct approach. I think they are worried that too much political discussion mixed into their work will push their employees apart and result in a worse environment. They make it clear they don't have a problem with people having strong political views, or even discussing them with their work colleagues, just not mixed into their work discussions.

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